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Thursday, July 18, 2013

Rant: Christians, Atheists, and Turing Tests

Leah Librisco is continuing her rather intriguing "Ideological Turing Test," which has Christians pretending to be atheists and atheists pretending to be Christians, and readers of all stripes attempting to guess which is which (the Christians also write Christian responses, the atheists atheist responses). I still consider the questions asked in the first contest to be the best, since they are questions which actually can be answered by even modestly intellectually curious Christians and atheists alike. I skimmed the second contest, but really didn't like the questions as much--ironically, as a matter of taste.

This year's questions focus on sex (specifically, polyamory), death (euthanasia and assisted suicide), and literature. Again, interesting to see what kind of responses people leave, but I still liked the first set of questions more, perhaps in part because they get at the core intellectual reasons why people are either Christian or atheist. I will grant that I have known some aesthetic converts to Christianity, and a few Christians whose minds became poisoned by atheist prose to the point of apostasy, but it is very rare that I have met a person who actually bases his religious beliefs on the existence of the music of JS Bach.

With that said, I am largely not going to try judging these this time around. The thing is, there are at least three sides to the Ideological Turing Test: Atheist, Protestant, and Catholic. And that's without getting into the differences between liberal/conservative Protestants, faithful and faithless Catholics, atheists and agnostics, etc. An atheist pretending to be a (theologically if not politically) liberal Protestant is likely not going to impress a faithful Catholic--but neither is a liberal Protestant. But there are at least a few Protestants who really are theists, and who might even go so far as to believe in the resurrection, but who are otherwise liberal--and from here on I mean theologically and morally liberal, not politically liberal per se. There are also a few self-styled Christians who don't in the least believe in a historical Jesus, or that the historical man Jesus was also true God, the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity made flesh.

To be perfectly honest, I cannot tell whether a person who opens his answer to the question of polygamy by writing, "First, polygamy should be legal....Second, there’s no reason to say that polygamy is a sin" and who then goes on to justify suicide in certain cases is a liberal Christian, or an atheist trying to play the part of a liberal Christian. Two years ago, I would have written this response off as an atheist doing a half-ass job, but that doesn't do justice to some of the atheists in this game [1].

The thing is, there do exist some Protestants who might formulate their answers this way (apparently Luther, for one). There probably also exist some people who are baptized Catholics who would agree. Yet, when I read a line like that, I don't generally consider those people when trying to decide if the writer is a Christian or not.

Maybe it's just that I expect people to take their religion seriously. Maybe I need to work on not being judgmental of others' sincerity--to separate, that is, their sincerity in Christ from their sincere endorsement of sins. Or maybe it's that in this way I view the world as those who need to be evangelized and/or catechized, and those who don't. In summary, those who already know and embrace the fullness of the Catholic faith don't need much more catechesis, whereas those who don't do. I view error as error, with some errors being worse than others--but I'm as likely to think that a liberal Protestant (or Catholic) needs conversion as an apathetic agnostic or an acknowledged atheists. 

When a conservative Protestant converts to Catholicism, I tend to rejoice for the sake of Christian unity and for the sake of a closer theological bond between us. When a liberal Christian (Catholic or Protestant) becomes a more orthodox Christian--when he starts to recognize that sin exists and must be repented of, that Jesus Christ is more than a mere moral teacher, that hell as well as heaven is a distinct destination, that some parts of the Bible--including the New Testament miracles and the Old Testament Law--are literally true: the kind of rejoicing that I know then is of a different magnitude of degree entirely [2]. Similarly for the frustration and sorrow that I feel when these kinds of conversions don't happen.

So to return to the Ideological Turing Test, I like the concept, and find the responses interesting. But it would be almost as interesting to make it really ideological, to see if a liberal Christian can understand (and mimic) a conservative one and vice-versa. As it stands, the two groups are too broad. Or perhaps it is just the right breadth to unintentionally teach us something about ourselves. Certainly, I wonder if my lack of empathy for error hampers my efforts at evangelizing.


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[1] Oddly enough, I was right more often than not when I did this, with the exceptions being various Protestants and Church-hating Catholics (for lack of a better term) who were hostile to organized/authoritative religion in general and the Catholic Church in particular.

[2] FWIW, conversions from non-Christian to at least mere Christian give me a joy which is actually different in kind.

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